It’s important that in situations such as this, feelings are gotten-off-one’s-chest which is exactly what is being done here. So I commend the webmaster for putting this together. Most people in EPI spent many years with the company and invested much blood sweat and tears and forged MANNNY good relationships, so this is somewhat of a divorce that will require much coping and support.

I stepped away from EPI in early 2008. So my reaction to the news was rather monotonous since I’m already well-detached from the organization. I’m just glad that my P1 product is still accessible. That’s my money.

I did have measurable problems with more than one member of the “ELC” but I didn’t harp on those issues enough nor were their actions the drive behind my leaving the company.

But I could indeed talk in great detail about the Monday Mindset calls, to which I only respond that I accept that I’ll never get those 1-hour weekly blocks of my life back. How many times did I want to email a picture of my facial expressions during the calls directly to Sam so he could see how much he was NOT helping.

To that point, I also contend that the big boom of philosophical teachings definitely infiltrated the EPI training process in a very bad way (e.g. What the Bleep Do We Know? and The Secret, the Law of Attraction, etc.) and while I will admit I’m somewhat biased against how those teachings are presented (both by the individual authors/producers of these works and the style of the turnaround-delivery of the people within EPI that were pushing it), I will say that when people have true ‘mindset issues’, those issues probably step wayyyy beyond any level where a Monday-night training call will targetedly address it. With that said, I saw the Monday Mindset calls as only a direct agitation to people’s true inner-core issues.

Furthermore, anyone who truly does carry severe inner-core issues that are conflicting with their own entrepreneurial success are going to get nowhere marketing any top-tier product or products, I don’t quite care who their director is or how successful they are. I won’t say top-tier marketing is hard work, but it is certainly not for the weary either.

A big problem within the home-based business industry is that it normally attracts the attention of people who are looking directly at having fantastic financial goals bring them satisfaction in life. You’ll probably think, yeah – so? The hugest problem in that is the fact that they’re looking for money to make them happy. If that’s true, they’re obviously not happy now. You’re still saying, yeah – so?

SO…their unhappiness is going to come through in their work and it is going to either make their presentation shaky or is going to discourage them from doing what is required of them to begin with. Why do you think fear of rejection is such a big issue in the HBB industry? They came chasing happiness through money! If one doesn’t have the mental/psychological expansiveness to not only separate the word “No” from the concept of something bad, but also to separate the concept of “money” from the concept of “happy”, listen that’s the least of their problems! The question becomes, what else are they really afraid of, and how long really, is that list of fears?

When you combine wonderful people who at the end of the day carry TRUE and VALID inner-core issues alongside a series of valuable yet still top-tier products – and then lock that combined scenario in the same room with a team of trainers who probably aren’t giving targeted guidance or encouragement, THAT spells failure.

And that problem exists whether you’re in Company A or Company X… and it’ll create potential for overall corporate failure anywhere.

This is off-topic. But I’m curious how you found this page to promote your URL.

But you’re actually wrong. Affiliate marketing does not generally pay per click. You may be referring to CPA or even Google Adsense. Both of which depend on understand how to drive quality traffic or high volume unqualified traffic.

Affiliate marketing generally pays only when a sale is generated by the click.

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If you mean because you bought in recently, particularly at the Phase 2 or Phase 3 levels, I’m not sure there’s much you can do. Emerald Passport was incorporated in Panama, which I *LOVED* visiting, but which is notorious for being an offshore haven for shell companies. Clearly Emerald was wrapped up with a final Phase 2/Phase 3 that was more for decoration than any real content – and now it’s gone.

You’re best bet is to contact whomever sold Emerald Passport to you, but I would assume they’re in the dark just as much as you are, unfortunately.

As for the 2-Up. I think a straight 2-Up is really dead. And I think Emerald was the last top-tier 2-Up you’ll see for some time. The 2-Up model doesn’t work like it should. It creates a psychological barrier to making your first 2 sales. And the fact that many prospects have been in one, and don’t like them, has rendered it quite unpopular.

Most of the big companies, like Liberty League International (now Polaris Media Group), Wealth Masters International (and it’s front end Carbon-Copy Pro) and Lifepath Unlimited have modified this so that the new guy makes some or all of the money on the first sale. And it’s easier to sell something like that than a 2-Up, in my opinion.

Tampogo is where the other 1/2 of the leadership team is steering everybody (Cynthia Maurice and Linda Costopolous). Both of whom are dedicated to helping their team. I just think a business like Tampogo is not a smart choice. The reason? Marketing is about being specific about your target market. Any company who claims that “everyone is a good prospect” because “you’re buying this stuff anyway” just does not have a good business model looking into the future.

That’s the Amway model. It sounds reasonable, but the attrition tells a completely different story.

I learned that from my first MLM company, several years ago, Melalecua.

It was obviously known well in advance, and they had those P2/P3 conference back to back to wrap everything up cleanly and offer an opportunity to deliver the conferences people paid for.

That’s the part that just strikes me as very, very WRONG.

I heard these ex-EPI leaders in their new business – LGN Revolution. (That’s another 2-up plan that recently had to lower the minimum entry price to $200 from $800, presumed because of the recession.)

Jim Norris, Maurice Smith, Tom Washington, and Jack Russo were all on the call recruiting new blood — the old “One Big Team” crew at EPI.

At least they have a readily identifiable company owner and an annual Feburary convention in Las Vegas which costs only $45. But it is still a damn two-up.

My comment is mainly to thank those of you who briefly explained what happened. It would be interesting to hear what you guys are doing now and what you would suggest as the next business. Feel free to email me something. In the meantime I am busy with a couple of proyects related to supplements and water that have had a tremendous impact on my own well being, as well as everyone who as also using them.

I wish success (and wellness) to everyone who reads these comments.

Klaus